‘They’re full of emotion’: Everything Hoops said about fiery Argies, Skelton link, Quade’s impact

Wallabies captain Michael Hooper is expecting another “emotional” response from Argentina as Australia seek to win a fourth straight Rugby Championship game on the Gold Coast on Saturday.

The opening game was won unconvincingly by the Aussies and featured several running battles. In the aftermath it was revealed the Argentinans felt “disrespected” over a photo snub and that followed onto the pitch.

As the touring squad has been rocked by the loss of six players who took an ill-advised trip over the state line into New South Wales and have been barred from the match, Hooper said his team was braced for another backlash.

“We are fully aware that every Test is a hard one,” Hooper said on Friday. “We’ve got to be on our game, whether it’s New Zealand, Argentina, anyone in this competition otherwise you get stung. We know it’s coming our way and we’ve got to understand that, be on our game, deliver what we can for 80 minutes and really build a performance that we’re proud of.

“It’s always an emotional game when we play any team in a Test match. We expected that and we expect more of the same this week.”

At his Captain’s Run press conference, Hooper was also asked about the impact that Quade Cooper and Samu Kerevi have had on the team, the potential return of Will Skelton and the impact of Dave Rennie and his coaching staff. Here’s everything he had to say.

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On coming to the end of a ‘challenging’ series and the Pumas’ border indiscretion

“We’ve had to get over some sore bodies, it’s our fifth game on the trot so we’ve had a really good balance this week of recovery and then getting the work in that we need to do,” said Hooper.

“We know Argentina will bounce back. There’s a little bit going on there, they’re full of emotion and they want to improve on their last game. The focus has been okay we’re playing the team the same team again but we can be a lot better this week.

“Staff and management are good terms of allowing certain things to happen around families and time off and trying to get us a mental refresh. It’s been challenge, as it has for every team, but we’re lucky we get to play rugby and to represent the country. We’re doing it in our own country, which is great.
Queensland, by and large, has been pretty unrestricted in terms of what we’ve been able to do and likewise in Perth. It’s great just to be playing and not having some of the dramas that we had last year.”

Hooper said he couldn’t tell how the quarantine issue would affect the Wallabies’ opponents.

“I guess we were as surprised as anyone but we had to knuckle back down and get on with our stuff,” he said of the news.

“That has been a focus for our team for a long time now, seeing what we can control.

“We know we left a lot out there on the weekend and can go up another level. We know there’s going to be a fair bit of emotion kicking off this game as we’ve seen in games like last year in a similar circumstance.”

He was asked if he felt for the tourists, who have been on the road for months and didn’t get to play a Test at home in the series.

“Absolutely. To make this competition work everyone’s having to make sacrifices and it’s them more than most,” Hooper said.

“I think everyone’s appreciative that the competition’s been able to run and we’ve been able to have it in our backyard. That’s a win for us I guess. But it’s certainly hard for everyone involved. It’s the state of play at the moment and we’ve got to get on with it.”

On how his year rates so far

Hooper was asked if this was his best season as a Wallabies player.

“Every year is great to represent the jersey and try to improve week to week, grow as a team and get some consistency down,” Hooper said.

“What has been pleasing is we’re starting to gain some momentum now. We’re talking about things during the week and executing them on the field.

“We’re still chasing that really solid 80 minute performance and being extra clinical with that. So there’s always a goal to work for.

“There’s a good looking team this week, with a couple of changes in there and some exciting stories in the mix as well. It’s always hard to rate against different years, different groups. We’ve been here for a long time now, which has been awesome. But it’s hard to judge on any one particular year.”

On how coaching changes have benefitted the team

“It’s a mixture of things,” Hopper said. “It’s not that things haven’t been there in the past. It’s just another year further that we’re understanding a new system and a new game plan.

“We had quite a short run up into last year’s campaign with a lot of new players, big squads, which was unfamiliar at the time, 40 odd people go across to New Zealand.

“Now we have a lot of similar faces, another year of exposure to a Wallaby environment and a long time together.

“We’ve been together now for three and a bit months on the trot. So a lot of rugby talk.

“We’re getting a good set up on a Monday in terms of what’s being delivered to us what we can expect from opposition teams, and then there’s been a good uptake from our players, particularly the last couple of weeks.

“But just four weeks ago, we were three losses on the trot so it hasn’t been a perfect run by any stretch and we’re not nailing things. There’s so much improvement and growth in us and we’ve got to stay focused on that there’s still there’s still some level ups we can we can attain. I think that’s exciting.”

On the promotion of Pete Samu to the starting team

“Not only can he cover all positions but on the ground, in turnover positions, he’s great, ball carry is excellent, good presence around the tackle as well,” Hooper said.

Samu had “aood engine on him to get through a lot of work,” he added. “There’s a lot to like about Pete. When he’s come off the pine in all his games he’s changed the pace. He’s done something in the form of a little line break or a sneaky pick or just a good bit of link play.

“That’s been really impressive. Now he’s got more minutes to do more of the same. It’s really good reward for someone who’s been adding a lot for us off the bench.”

On the return of Sean McMahon

Hooper said he was “stoked to play with Seany”.

“It’s not since 2017 we were playing together,” he said. “He was playing a lot of eight at the time I played seven and I enjoyed that combination with him.

“He brings a really good dynamic to the team in the form of real aggression and a super work rate. He’s been training really hard in the last couple of weeks being back and he’s a great character to have back in the team. His enthusiasm to be in the Wallaby gold has really been noticeable.”

On the Wallabies’ squad depth

“The selectors have a challenge every week,” said Hooper. “There are guys constantly performing on Saturday, and then on the training paddock as well which means there’s guys putting up their hands that unfortunately aren’t getting a run.

“Dave’s spoken about those guys as well. It’s a tough position to be in when you start to get to the ninth or 10th Test in the middle of the year and it’s your last game in Australia and you don’t get any minutes.

“But our guys have been putting up their hands each week, preparing the 23 to play the best they possibly can.

“It’s a challenge with a lot of players here, but our guys have taken to it really well and it’s something that we want to continue to grow, because if someone goes down we need that position to be filled and filled well.

“The great thing about competition and the depth that’s being created is we’ve got plenty of options and that’s going to do well for us in the next couple of years.”

On Will Skelton and talks he will play on the Spring Tour
Hooper said he had only seen his former Waratahs teammate play one game since heading overseas, a European Cup final for Saracens two years ago.

Asked to comment on Skleton’s attributes, Hooper said: “He’s got the ability to change a game, his size, he’s a great fella to have around the team, really good in terms of off field stuff.

“For the lack of rugby that I’ve seen him play I’ve heard a lot of good things in terms of when he’s been in shape, he’s made a real impact in the Premier League up there and now he’s up in France obviously and I’ve heard some great things around that.

“It’s been a long time since been in the jersey so it’s great to hear that he’s keen to be involved.”

Hooper said the older overseas guys had helped raise the group.

“Depth and experience allows stuff to transfer between players, ideas be shared,” Hooper said. “Everyone trains harder when you know you’ve got some direct competition there and some handing down of experience which is something that we want to keep growing as well.

“A lot of our guys who are in the team now grew up watching some of those guys play when they were still at school. To get the opportunity to play with them breeds a lot of excitement about the jersey in house as well.”

On how much of a difference Quade Cooper and Samu Kerevi have made

“How can you hypothesize that?” said Hooper, when asked to assess the Cooper and Kerevi impact. “They’ve been really good for us, they brought a lot on and off the field and we’ve got some great centres as well who aren’t getting the time.

“Who knows what would have happened with the trajectory of our team?”

On the return of veteran prop Greg Holmes and his famous try from 2006

“Age is just a number, right?” said Hooper of the 38-year-old Holmes. “He’s been playing really well overseas for a long time.

“That was no secret to the people who have been around him. Nic White was in the same team with him at Exeter, and he wasvery valuable in terms of what he could do around a scrum and then just in terms of being a good bloke.

“He’s added that space since he’s been in here, and good experience. It’s guys like Angus Bell who get to scrum against him in training and that creates a good challenge for a young prop like that with a big future.”

Hooper was asked if he remembered seeing Holmes’ 50 metre try against Ireland in real time.

“You don’t know if it’s because you’ve seen it so many times that you think of it as a memory,” Hooper said. “I like to think that I watched it. He says it’s about 70 or 80 metres – but it’s a genuine 50-55.

“We’ve played it a couple of times and he shakes his head in the team room but he clearly loves it.

“We’ve just been asking for the same from [James Slipper] but I think Slips’ only Test try was half a metre at the World Cup two years ago. We’ll try and get Slips another one this weekend.”

Ben Simmons still has game so why doesn’t anybody want him?

It’s looming as one of the biggest stories in the NBA before the season has even started.

We’re less than three weeks away from opening night and Ben Simmons is yet to find a team to play for.

First came his off-season trade request.

Then came training camp — Simmons was a no-show.

The excessive fines for missing training — $7500 minimum — and games — $227,000 — hasn’t deterred Simmons from holding out either. ESPN also reportedthat Simmons is still under contract through 2024-25.

All this, on the eve of a brand new season, has not only held the 76ers back and disrupted their preparations, but Simmons has made it clear he doesn’t want to return to the city of brotherly love. And all signs indicate that Simmons’ relationship with Philadelphia — head coach Doc Rivers, Embiid, and fans — has disintegrated to a point of no return.

76er’s president Daryl Morey still believes that the relationship can be salvaged.

“I think there’s a lot of hope,” Morey said on Monday at media day.

“Look, every situation is different, but we have a lot of optimism that we can make it work here.”

And while Morey may hold the belief his team can get Simmons back playing ball in Philly, everything is up in the air and full of uncertainty.

The Athletic’s Sam Amick reported that the pairing of Simmons and Embiid “has run its course” because their playing styles clash.

“There’s nothing personal about this choice, it seems, but the 25-year-old Simmons has clearly decided that his career is better off without Embiid blocking the runways in the paint that he so badly needs to succeed,” Amick reported. “So while Embiid insisted to reporters on Monday that he wants Simmons back, this much is clear: The feeling is not mutual.”

Philly Inquirer reporter Keith Pompey asked Embiid about Simmons and Amick’s report and he called the situation “weird, disappointing, borderline kind of disrespectful to other guys that are out here fighting for their lives.”

Embiid wants Simmons to return and believes Philly is a better team with Simmons in it, but said the 76ers’ fit is not just about him and Simmons. He also didn’t hold back, saying “Our teams have always been built around his needs, so it was kind of surprising to see what was said.”

The rift between the 76ers and Simmons showed signs of strains last year when the Harden trade was floated.

But when he failed to fire offensively in the playoffs series against Atlanta where he didn’t attempt any three point shots and scored under 10 in five of the seven games – 17, 4, 8, 11, 8, 6, 5 – it revived old feelings about Simmons inability to be a reliable scorer. For all his defensive grunt, and stops, Simmons was best remembered in that Atlanta series for passing on a critical play when he should have taken the shot which highlighted how the confidence in himself to shoot the ball seemed to hit an all-time low.

Aussie basketball star Ben Simmons with the Philadelphia 76ers.

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In his four years at Philly Simmons is 5-from-34 for threes. There’s always been some hope that Simmons would develop the long ball and score with freedom. But that hasn’t happened.

It’s worth considering too, that the 76ers have dug their own hole here, or at least played their part. At the completion of their playoff loss to Atlanta, Simmons’ coach Doc Rivers was asked if Ben can be the point guard for a championship team, and he replied, “I don’t know.”

If confidence is what Simmons’ needed, that sure would have felt like a dagger in the back. Simmons needed his coach to stand up for him but instead he created further uncertainty around his game.

Another low-key dagger that didn’t help: Rivers suggesting that Simmons was shying away from the rugged Sixers fans and their critical assessments of him.

So, are we all that surprised at the Simmons stalemate?

David Thorpe, author of baseball newsletter TrueHoop, pointed some of the blame at Embiid:

“Joel Embiid can do a lot of things on the basketball court, but he didn’t use his considerable size, leadership, and sway with Philadelphia fans to lead Simmons to greatness.”

A front-runner for Simmons hasn’t emerged as yet but there is definitely interest in the Australian. Teams like the Kings, Raptors, Timberwolves, and Warriors have interest in Simmons. Jake Fischer from Bleacher Report says the Spurs have made inquiries. Some still believe Simmons’ best is ahead of him and there’s a future — still — in Philly.

For that to work, both parties need to compromise. For coach Doc Rivers, he needs to create plays and a style that would get the Simmons seal of approval — and I can’t see that kind of upheaval happening.

For Simmons, he’d need to learn to live with Embiid, but also fix his shot and be the all-round player —elite defender and reliable scorer — people believe he can be. Both of those require Simmons to concede and from what we’ve seen so far it doesn’t look like he wants to do that. Simmons wants to do what Kawhi Leonard did when he left the Spurs: move forward, make a fresh start.

There’s a lot left to play out.

Simmons could very well be back playing alongside Embiid later this month, or he could be playing his home games in San Francisco, or some other city . And then there’s door number three: he could be sitting out the whole season not playing at all — which seems highly unlikely.

But whatever happens, it’s clear that Simmons, at 25, still has to figure out what his best basketball looks like and while he’s now considering his future, his next team and where he best fits, there’s still more to his game he needs to work on and unlock — something he hasn’t been able to do in Philadelphia.

To be or not to Wallaby? A question posed to Tier 2 by the Rennie-vation of Tier 1 rugby

In my first ever Roar article I ask if we may take what is currently good and functional about Australian rugby, and deploy it to strengthen what is still weak in our game. (Tier 2, we’re lookin’ at you).

Last week Roarer, Stu opined: “Maybe we could have an annual Wallaby ‘Probables vs Possibles’ match at $20 bucks a ticket?”

In resonance with Stu’s wish to see more of our wider Wallaby squad members strut their stuff, I responded at the time with one of my current hobby horses – the shape of an ideal Trans-Tasman Super format.

More on that below, but first, a Rennievation update:

This Test season has seen the Rennievator with sleeves rolled up to his elbows, tinkering with the ideal design of the modern marsupial mongrel (and mongrelite).

From the higher than average skull thicknesses up front, who are slightly overplaying, (as in Swints’ swinging and Philip’s ‘swimming’), all the way back to the Lazaresque ‘underplay’ of Australia’s most controversial post-Campo creative, ‘Aussie Dave’ Rennie has knit a coherent team.

And a single pattern book to for all to knit from.

Something seems simple, and right, about this development, from a viewpoint amongst a tired Wallabies supporters group, watching on from outside the renovation fence.

But this team has won three on the trot, and a game beckons tomorrow night.

Could Rennie’s ‘Dad’n’Dave’ Army mix of elder and joey macropods hop over the 15 South American carnivores looking for revenge for last week’s score, and this week’s Byron visitor logistics?

Could Latin passion stung by cruel circumstances and rotten scheduling throw out a tripping trap?

Might Skippy drop, rather than hop, on the morrow? Could any more metaphors be mangled into service?

Tomorrow night will reveal how solid the Rennievated structure is. For a long time, I have wondered what a wily NZ coach would do with our Wallaby stock. And in Dave we have an answer. And some trust (for some of us, at least).

I liked Robbie Deans. A lot. But, in hindsight, he and we were culturally naive to think that Robbie’s gentle Canterbrian style would translate to that distracted amigo-led lot of yesteryear.

But back to Dave, our Aussie Dave. He has a team- ScoJo Wisemantel, Dan Mc, Taylor (did I miss any?) in support. Together they have set a dignified direction for an Australian team. Not just a Test team. A model team for any level. A culture of ‘team’. The one with no ‘I’ (but a lot of resonant skill) in it.

We could do with a bit of that at Super level. And at NRC level (or at ‘How about we even have an NRC?’ level).

Len Ikitau of the Wallabies celebrates after scoring a try

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WHAT HAS ALL THIS GOT TO DO WITH Super Rugby?

Back to Stu, and his wish for some Possible vs Probable action.

Stu is not alone in wanting to see the broader squad members perform at Tier1.5. (Not a test. Not Super). Such a talent display and distillation would be great for fans, player exposure and selector/developer IP. Agreed, Stu.

But in a crowded schedule where would such game(s) fit in?

What if such a spectacle was part of our existing schedule, and simultaneously enabled our provincial contact with New Zealand to be more competitive, marketable, and profitable?

That is, what if Australian Super players could once more, unto the breach, ‘frighten’ the five rugby factories to the east?

What if some of such games were simultaneously part of an early WB pre-test season?

Following is my draft Trans-Tasman model, modestly titled –

Another leg of rugby: The Trans-Tasman distillation

I’ve mentioned this idea on these boards before, but not as a stand-alone article.

1. Background
New Zealanders are rugby intelligent. (To those assuming that I am buying 50% of the Roar votes here, you’d be right).

NZers have for some time asked us to reduce our super team numbers.

We are “spread too thin” is one common observation. Oz rugby can’t sustain 5 Super sides, they say. (And this year’s OZ TT results beg for action).

Well we once tried to cull. We flicked the Force. But they boomeranged. And who looks silly now, after the Tahs finished last in both phases of the SR competition? Flicking doesn’t work anymore. Too many fans in inconvenient places, like Perth. Too many boomerangs.

Plus most of Oz purists believe that we need as much national footprint as we can possibly get. (Okay Aussies have big feet, but there’s still plenty of red dust unprinted). We need at least 5 pro teams hopping forward. If not more, (if not an NRC again, one day)

So how do we reconcile a “No Culling” policy at home, with

“Just Send Us Three Teams Bro” from across the ditch when it is marsupial massacre season next?

2. Foreground
Oz rugby may build a strong future, but has not yet a strong present.

Here are the distillation details-

Detail 1: Let the domestic leg of Super Rugby run with as many teams as each nation wishes. For Australia presently that would be 5. All franchises supported equally by RA.

Detail 2: When the international phase of competition arrives, NZ provides its usual five teams. Pasifika would provide two. Both these numbers are currently proposed.

But here’s the radical bit – Australia only offers 3 teams to this short phase of competition.

Detail 3: The 3 OZ teams offered to the Trans-Tasman phase of the competition, are to be made up of:

i) the SRAU winner, This year it was the Reds.

i) Possible/Probable Rep team1 Green

iii) Possible/Probable Rep team2 Gold

These two Rep teams to be formed from the best players from the four OZ wooden spooner franchises.

Eg. This season would’ve seen a TT with
1. Reds
2. Oz 1 (Brums and Rebs’best) or 2+5 ranking
3. Oz 2 (Tahs and Force’s best) or 3+4 ranking

Detail 4: These two Rep teams form an early Wallaby squad formation, to be designed and supervised by the WB coaching and development squad with assistance from Super coaches, and resourced at franchise level.

3. Potential positives:
– Increased depth in Oz TT squads

– Increased competitiveness against NZ SR excellence

– Growth in OZ elite coaching competence

– Early squad gathering and development of WB possibles for Rennie and Co., a potential boon in light of Pumas rise after the Jaguares’ cohesion over time.

– If competitiveness increases so will the engagement of fans and sponsors. This level of fun might lead to more fun ticket$?

– Retention of all SRAU franchises, before and after the TT leg of competition (ie. no more Force farces, an event decided on under external pressure)

– An increase in OZ cross-franchise cooperation and systems resonance over the broad Wallaby catchment.

4. THIS IDEA IS SHORT TERM – an experiment

This proposal is intended as a short-term development experiment to serve the code in the region. while increasing its quality.

If and when Australian Super squads increase in strength such a model would be abandoned for one more appropriate, such as a full provincial comp including all OZ franchises.

But for now, while OZ rugby rebuilds its Tier 2 competence, audience and depth, who wouldn’t love to see an increase in competitiveness in Trans-Tasman contests, while still allowing all Australian franchises to live, prosper and retain fans either side of the TT phase?

So, Roarers, I’ve set up my dartboard. I expect some darts. Shoot straight at me.

Oilers notebook: Is Kassian resurgence key to solving secondary scoring woes?

EDMONTON — The good news? How about winning your first two pre-season games by an aggregate score of 10-0 — while using four different goalies?

Then, of course, the bad news: A 5-1 beatdown by a veteran Winnipeg Jets lineup, when your top line featured Zack Kassian and Warren Foegele flanking Ryan McLeod.

The Edmonton Oilers came back down to earth Wednesday, not an unexpected occurrence in the pre-season given the disparity of lineups we tend to see. How long does the experimenting last for head coach Dave Tippett?

“(Until) Saturday,” he said. “We play Friday night and Saturday afternoon, and we’ll be down close to our team by Sunday.”

The team did make these roster moves on Thursday, though.

Assigned to Bakersfield Condors (AHL):
Devin Brosseau (F)
Matteo Gennaro (F)
Yanni Kaldis (D)
Dino Kambeitz (F)
Raphael Lavoie (F)
Kirill Maksimov (F)
Ostap Safin (F)
Tim Soderlund (F)

Returned to Shawinigan Cataractes (QMJHL):
Xavier Bourgault (F)

That leaves three pre-season games for hopefuls like Tyler Benson, Brendan Perlini, Colton Sceviour, William Lagesson and, yes, Josh Archibald to do whatever they have to do to make this team.

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Some thoughts on that:

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Archibald is in the strangest of places, the only unvaccinated Oilers player who still has not skated with the team at this training camp. Now we find out he is in ill health.

He does not have Covid 19 — Tippett said that Archibald has “tested negative every day” — but he is not healthy enough to take part in training camp either.

“He skated and he just wasn’t feeling right,” said Tippett, who added that doctors were doing some blood work, hoping to diagnose the problem. “There is some concern there, and they just want to get to the bottom of it before they start pushing him any harder.”

Then there is the issue of being the only unvaccinated player on the roster. With quarantine issues involved in travelling to and from the United States, a non-vaccinated player on a Canadian NHL team could be forced to miss nearly half the season (without pay) due to mandatory government quarantines.

Will Archibald take the jab?

“Right now we’re worried about his health,” said Tippett. “As it stands, I don’t think he would be eligible to get a vaccination. They want to make sure he’s healthy (first).”

We’ll stand by our prediction that the Oilers won’t keep an unvaccinated Archibald on their roster, despite the fact he is a useful player. They’ll have to get to the bottom of his health concerns, then the decision to roll up his sleeve in Edmonton or catch a plane to Bakersfield will be up to the player.

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Speaking of drama, there was a time when Zack Kassian was awash in it.

Buffalo’s first-round draft pick was swapped for failed Vancouver first-rounder Cody Hodgson, and then he flamed out in Montreal before getting his life and career back on track in Edmonton in 2015.

Now, after an injury-plagued and ineffective season in 2020-21, Kassian is an elder statesman on this team and a family man. This is his seventh season in Edmonton, and the 30-year-old spoke this week about the different view he has on the game as he enters his 30s.

“As you get older in the league, you realize what a privilege it is to (play in the league). As you get older, with family, kids, you try not to take it for granted. I want to win a Stanley Cup,” he said. “I know people are getting impatient, but it’s a process. And I think we’re well on our way to being contenders.

“You can’t play in this league forever. You try to do everything you possibly can to bring a Cup back to Edmonton.”

There is so much hockey player here, it’s easy to see why Tippett has him book-ended with Foegele on Edmonton’s third line. If Kassian can bring it, with his size, speed and decent hands, that line — likely with centre Derek Ryan — could go a long ways to solving Edmonton’s support scoring issues.

“He’s going to step back and really have a good year,” Tippett predicted. “He’s a big piece of our team, a leader. We need him to play well. We think him and Foegele on the third line can give us some heavy hard minutes.

“He can play a heavy, mean game, but he skates well and has good skill. You can play with top player, or on a heavy line.”

Kassian can’t just be a passenger, not at $3.2 million per season. We’ll watch with interest to see if the bruising winger can find some consistency in an up-and-down career that has landed him, he says, in a place where he thinks he can win.

“When I came here, you had Connor McDavid, you get Leon Draisaitl, you get Darnell Nurse,” he began. “To see these players grow and to be with an organization that long is pretty cool. When you’re in a market like this, they want to win. Trust me: We want to win just as much.

“You’re not really hoping for it. You know it’s there if we put in the work,” he said. “We might have something special here.”

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Speaking of something special, McDavid between wingers Zach Hyman and Jesse Puljujarvi could turn out to be one of the National Hockey League’s most dominant lines, if the chemistry falls into place.

We see Hyman winning pucks that McDavid’s former left wingers seldom won, and getting the puck to the Oilers captain. Hyman’s a battler who draws defencemen in, while everyone is aware of McDavid at all times. That leaves Puljujarvi to find the quiet places to be a target for McDavid’s first pass.

How many one-timer opportunities from inside the dots could he have this season?

Puljujarvi has been a slow developer. That makes me believe he still has much room to improve. He is only 23 and hasn’t even played 200 NHL games yet (194).

The six-foot-four Finn found his NHL legs last season. This season, a comfortable-looking Puljujarvi on a line with the best offensive player in the game and a steady, solid left winger — plus some powerplay time — will score 25 goals. Maybe more.

Senators Notebook: Pinto knocking on door for second-line centre role

On paper, at least, just two games into the pre-season schedule, this is still the fun-and-games portion of training camp.

It’s a beautiful thing — to be able to look awful, as the Ottawa Senators did against the visiting Toronto Maple Leafs on Wednesday, lose 4-0, drop a shootout to boot and still get to call it a meaningless game.

Meaningless in the standings, at least. For players trying to earn a spot or move up in the lineup, they all matter.

Zach Ostapchuk would call the pre-season meaningful. At 18, Ostapchuk was awarded a three-year, entry-level contract with the Senators prior to the Leafs game. A six-foot-three centre, Ostapchuk was drafted 39th overall in 2021 and has impressed the organization throughout camp with his skill and spirited play.

Even though the Senators have split into separate NHL and AHL camp groups, the young prospects hoping to make an impression can still do so, and some will continue to get time in the five remaining exhibition games.

And yet, when you take a look at Ottawa’s roster with an eye toward opening night on Oct. 14, how many spots are realistically up for grabs?

Not many. If any.

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We are starting to see signs of the Senators moving further along the path out of their rebuild, most notably that the young players just breaking in over the past few years — like Brady Tkachuk, Drake Batherson, Tim Stützle — are now firmly entrenched in the lineup. Add in the veterans either in the system or newly-added and that doesn’t leave a lot of room.

“Every year it’s going to get harder and harder (to earn a spot) because these young players that are continuing to develop are taking spots and we plan on these guys being here, you know, eight to ten years,” head coach D.J. Smith said at the outset of camp.

The only reason there’s an opening in the forward group is because Tkachuk is still outside of camp trying to negotiate a new contract.

Veteran winger Zach Sanford was acquired from the St. Louis Blues for a bubble guy centre, Logan Brown, who would not have made this team out of camp. With Sanford a lock to be here, there goes another forward spot.

Let’s take a look at the forwards as they were set up at practice prior to Wednesday’s game, and again at Thursday’s practice:

Alex Formenton — Josh Norris — Drake Batherson

Tim Stützle — Chris Tierney — Connor Brown

Nick Paul — Colin White — Zach Sanford

Tyler Ennis — Shane Pinto — Austin Watson

What jumps off the page immediately — Formenton is a placeholder on that top line. As soon as Tkachuk arrives, Formenton slides down and someone has to come out of the lineup, whether Formenton or Ennis.

The other misfit in that chart? Pinto, coming off a spectacular game in Winnipeg Sunday, slotted in as the fourth-line centre. After Tierney’s struggles on Wednesday (admittedly, the entire team played badly), Pinto has earned the right to move back into that second-line centre spot.

Advantage Pinto

Does Pinto jump right into a starting role with the Senators after playing just 12 NHL games last season right out of college?

He could. In fact, he should, based on his play at camp to this point. Pinto may be the most intriguing story left in camp. The rest already feels like it’s been decided.

Prior to the Leafs game, Smith was adamant about trying Tierney as his No. 2 centre behind Norris.

“Chris came back in great shape, he did his part,” Smith said. “We want to put him in a few more offensive situations this year. He had 48 points a few years ago. We’re going to move them all around and see where guys fit best. But we think we have a ton of penalty killers and guys who can do that role — I think can give us a bit more offence this year.”

It is only one game, and pre-season at that, but Tierney did very little with 17:18 of ice time, including 4:08 on the power play. He did win five of his eight faceoffs. While his linemate, Stützle, did show some individual flashes, there was little line chemistry.

Pinto is smart, brings more pace and is a better finisher than Tierney. The kid might just make Smith’s next move obvious.

Brannstrom question

Barring an injury, Ottawa’s defence will have veterans filling out the top six spots. Jacob Bernard-Docker, the highly touted prospect from the University of North Dakota, has already been put in the AHL group and can use the opportunity to develop his game in Belleville this year.

Lassi Thomson has had a good camp but needs more time. Erik Brannstrom had some moments in Wednesday’s game, but continues to have issues in his own zone and there are questions about his future in the organization, despite the fact he was acquired in a high-profile trade for franchise winger Mark Stone.

As a local broadcaster noted after Wednesday’s game, there hasn’t been enough “wow” factor with Brannstrom, considering he is small, defensively suspect and needs to stand out in a big way — the way Erik Karlsson once did.

Considering Victor Mete has roughly the same skill set, is more experienced and requires waivers, Brannstrom is likely going down to the AHL at the end of camp.

Roster will change again

Remember last season when fans were riled about young players sitting out while veterans played? By the end of the season, Pinto, Formenton and Brannstrom were playing regularly and the team was rolling. That is more like it, everyone said.

And with veterans Michael Del Zotto and Nick Holden arriving before camp, there were cries of ‘here we go again.’ Keep in mind things can change in a hurry. Until Jake Sanderson and Bernard-Docker, Thomson and other prospects are ready for prime time, Ottawa can at least try to tap into some added experience. If the Senators falter — and let’s face it, this group is a year or two away from legitimate contention — then some of these veterans on shorter term deals (eg. Sanford or Del Zotto) could easily be flipped at the trade deadline for picks.

In their place, defencemen like Sanderson (assuming he leaves UND after this season), Brannstrom (if he’s still in the organization) or a JBD or Thomson can come up and play if they have earned it.

There may not be a lot of spots open now, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be openings for prospects later in the season.

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Fans, finally, but not many

Wednesday’s game against the Leafs was far from a sellout, even by the standards of the current limits (9,000-plus) but it was nice to see the few thousand in attendance for Ottawa’s first home game since March 5, 2020.

Attendance was not cited on the NHL.com official game summary, but the building didn’t appear to be even one-quarter full (capacity 18,652). Friday’s home game against the Montreal Canadiens should draw better.

It will be interesting to monitor the Senators’ attendance this season, in the face of multiple challenges. There has been little by way of news to market — even the long-awaited Brady Tkachuk signing is dragging its heels, and Senators president Anthony LeBlanc has not been able to assure fans that the arena will be open to capacity when the season starts (although it is optimistic in that regard).

Add in the hesitancy that some may have to join indoor audiences, even if CTC staff are demanding proof of coronavirus vaccine and masks for fans, plus the extra time it takes to check everyone’s vaccination proof at entrance ways . . . and it isn’t hard to find barriers that could impact attendance.

Players and coaches are elated that fans are back, in whatever number.

“We have some exciting young players and we want the fans to grow with us,” Smith said.

They will grow. But like this rebuild to contention, it will take some time for fans to feel confident again.