‘Healing Is a Constant Thing’: In Conversation with Clayton Thomas-Müller

Indigenous climate activist, writer, and filmmaker Clayton Thomas-Müller was raised in Winnipeg, a city named after the Cree word meaning “muddy waters.” His memoir, Life in the City of Dirty Water, published in August 2021, recounts his early years of dislocation growing up in the core of the Manitoba capital—from the domestic and sexual abuse he endured to the drugs he sold to survive (his first job was managing a drug house for the largest Indigenous gang in the country).

Clayton’s early struggles are only the beginning of his remarkable story, however. Years later, his immersion in Cree spirituality and reconnection with the land and his home territory of Pukatawagan led him on a personal healing journey that saw him become a leading organizer on the frontlines of environmental resistance, opening new pathways against the extractive forces perpetuating climate breakdown.

Indigenous rights, worldviews, and self-determination are medicines for the climate crisis, what Clayton might refer to as a “bush pharmacy.” These medicines were threatened by European colonial and economic systems like capitalism and residential schools. Since contact, Indigenous peoples have resisted—from the fur trade centuries ago to clear-cut logging and the tar sands today—and they continue to do so despite surviving a genocide that sought to eradicate their languages, ceremonies, traditional knowledge and philosophy.

Life in the City of Dirty Water chronicles both Clayton’s past and current work as a campaigner for the international climate justice organization 350.org, as well as his two-decade-long work as a campaigner for Indigenous peoples struggling against resource extraction projects. And the memoir is personal: it reads as if you’re at a coffee shop with Clayton discussing strategies about how to heal yourself and Mother Earth.

In this interview, which has been edited for clarity and length, Canadian Dimension sat down with Clayton to talk about his work as an activist, his journey of healing, and the importance of invoking the sacred.


Matteo Cimellaro: Can you explain your own process of healing and how that has informed your work as an activist?

Clayton Thomas-Müller: That’s been an arduous journey over the years. I’ve relapsed with alcoholism and drug abuse and self-destructive behaviours, usually in time of burn-out. Right out of working for the Manitoba Warriors, I went straight into the frontline doing gang intervention and decolonization work with young people in the inner city and on reserves. This crew I was part of was the Native Youth Movement; we would go into communities just with our bundles and pipes and open up with a pipe ceremony and have conversations about decolonialism and about prophecy. We talked about the seven-generation prophecy, where Indigenous youth and allies will come together to enact a new age of healing and rebirth for Native people and Turtle Island.

MC: In the book, you constantly invoke love, care, and joy as essential parts of your healing process. Do you think it is necessary to have that love, care, and joy in your activist work? To transform the anger and resentment in the work into a project, an ethic, of care?

CTM: Anger makes sense; it’s a reality. Anger and fear and shame are words that pop into mind that our people carry disproportionately. And there’s also under-resourcing. What feeds into that anger is all of the stereotypes that come from a very well-funded campaign from the colonial state, from corporations, from the private sector, and white supremacist social movement vehicles. They’re all focused on one thing: to keep the Canadian economic engine going. And even though that engine’s success is rooted in the dispossession of our people from our homelands, and the disenfranchisement from our collective right enshrined in section 35 of the Canadian constitution and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. These are inalienable rights that corporations, provincial governments, and federal governments aren’t supposed to interfere with—they are Creator-given rights. And our people would refer to them as responsibilities as stewards to the land, air, water, and climate.

Life in the City of Dirty Water cover by Clayton Thomas-M üller

Anger is self-destructive. I write about this in the memoir. I used that little ball of condensed anger—it’s like having a black hole inside of your belly—and I used the energy of that to strike out against our enemies, those people that would sacrifice our communities at the altar of irresponsible policy. Most of the time it would be our own Native people: Indian Act chiefs and councils who would be sitting across the table from government liaisons. Now that I’m a bit older and had a few battles, and have a few battle scars, I recognize how working from a place of anger and resentment and hatred and fear and shame, leads to you beginning to cannibalize yourself, and falling into negative patterns with yourself and others.

MC: Canadians might see a lot of Indigenous activism, especially blockades and pipeline protests as radical, perhaps even dangerous. Do you think there will be a time where the majority of Canadians will follow Indigenous leaders on issues like climate and self-determination?

CTM: First off, I’m not interested in trying to appeal to the conservative voter who lives in the 3,500-square-foot house with a three-door garage, the pool in the back, and a cottage wherever. Because for the most part, when they hear about change, decolonization, human rights, white privilege, and dismantling white supremacy, they get scared. All they hear is you’re trying to make my life less prosperous for me and my family.

The reality is Canadians are card-carrying, law-abiding citizens; if we change the system, if we change the law, Canadians will follow it, and will see how a lot of the problems that exist in society dissipate when we prioritize the most marginalized segments of society—when we prioritize First Nations, immigrants, migrants, and brown and black people in this country. Problems exist because 80 percent of Canada’s population is white presenting; until white supremacy and colonization becomes a white problem, problems will continue to exist, because these are the people that are benefiting from systems of oppression.

When a segment of society has control of the military, the police apparatus, economic things like mortgages and tax write-offs, and all the capital you’ve inherited, it’s easy to not see what everybody else is going through. That’s why you have labels on First Nations, but in reality, Natives have been subsidizing wealth in this country since its inception.

Climate activist, writer, and filmmaker Clayton Thomas-Müller. Still image from the film, Life in the City of Dirty Water (2019), directed by Clayton Thomas-Müller and Spencer Mann.

MC: That’s putting it lightly.

CTM: Yeah, and I think Native peoples are sick and tired of that. And white people are starting to fall through the cracks of the social safety net, and young people are woke nowadays, and even elementary kids have an analysis. One of the things I get optimistic about now is that 70 percent of the Native population is under the age of 30, so what we’re going to witness over the next decade is this entrance into Canada’s labour economy of workers that are Indigenous.

MC: Indigenous people prioritize their own form of reconciliation: reclaiming their lands, returning to ceremony, returning to forms of being on the land that honours the Creator. Can you speak to the journey from oppressive colonization to a healing predicated on the reclamation of Indigenous spirituality?

CTM: Colonialism is the cause of our existential threat of climate change. We have CEOs in black suits coming into our communities promising quick-fixes and changing our relationship to the sacredness of the Earth through mass extractivism. Instead of Catholicism being the religion of the day, now it’s capitalism.

But for me healing is a constant thing, like education, it’s something you revisit; it’s a well you draw from not just when you are in crisis, but also in celebration. When somebody is born, married, it’s important to invoke the sacred. And that’s something I still struggle with to this day: learning to be in balance and having an ongoing conversation with the Creator because that’s something everybody should do and can do.

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Work to Grow: The Benefits of Green Infrastructure

Cities, along with the buildings and communities within them, are often seen as concrete jungles – and concrete contributes to environmental problems, such as increased carbon dioxide emissions. While we can’t take away all the concrete, there are ways to mitigate the problems it causes.

One way is to add plants, or green infrastructure, to roofs, walls, streets and other areas. Vegetation increases air quality, energy efficiency and stormwater management, while also bringing life to neighbourhoods and commercial buildings.

“Concrete absorbs a lot of heat, so greenery on roofs, which is wasted space, would be beneficial for cooling,” says Rushil Malik, marketing coordinator at Green Roofs for Healthy Cities.

Examples of green infrastructure include the Podium Green Roof at Toronto’s City Hall and Devonian Gardens inside The Core building in Calgary. While there are examples of such infrastructure in most cities, many people are unaware of the huge benefits.

Devonian Gardens on the top floor of The Core shopping mall in downtown Calgary.
Devonian Gardens on the top floor of The Core shopping mall in downtown Calgary has over 500 trees, 50 plant varieties, fountains, fish ponds and more. Photo by Anosha Khan.

Green Roofs for Healthy Cities is a non-profit association based in Toronto and working across North America. It increases awareness of living architecture, offering educational courses and conferences about green roofs and walls.

Through Nature Canada’s Work to Grow program, Malik works for the association to raise awareness and educate people about green infrastructure and how it benefits communities.

“Whenever I go out into the world, I notice green walls,” she says. “I love seeing ivy on top of brick buildings, going to gardens, or seeing patios that have gardens, and things of that nature in places that are more urban.”

Image of green roofs implemented in a residential area
Green roofs can be implemented on top of residential, commercial and other types of buildings to help with stormwater and offset carbon emissions. Photo by Chuttersnap on Unsplash.

It’s a niche, according to Malik, and not many people are aware of green roofs or walls, but when they see it implemented in local buildings, they see the value in it.

“That kind of design speaks to me, and I think it speaks to a lot of people, especially when you’re in places that are urban and have a lot of concrete,” she explains. “Greenery is important for everyone’s mental state. It’s just something that makes us feel calm.”

Rushil Malik, marketing coordinator at Green Roofs for Healthy Cities, was inspired to work with the organization because it offers something beneficial for communities. Photo courtesy of Malik.

Various benefits of green roofs include retaining 70 to 90 per cent of the precipitation that falls on them, reducing greenhouse gases and smog, serving as a recreational space, and reducing daily energy demand for air conditioning.

The amount or carbon sequestered by a green roof depends on factors like size and what type of plants are present. Regardless, it still makes a notable difference.

Green roofs inspired Malik to start her career at Green Roofs for Healthy Cities. She wanted to work for a place that cares about local communities—and that offers something attainable to them. Her decision to work for an environmental cause is because of climate change and how it affects people of colour.

“Climate change will end up hurting people who have less power and less privilege,” she says. “I want to be able to help people and want to be able to implement things that I think are important in the world.”

Green infrastructure can be widely implemented through legislation and financial aid, as in the U.S., where Bill 1863, the Public School Green Rooftops program, will encourage schools to grow green roofs.

“Being able to make real change and encourage corporations, organizations and architecture firms to implement more green spaces is cool—and seeing how this industry has implemented policy around North America is really cool,” Malik says.

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CPAWS Southern Alberta Makes Nature More Accessible to Racialized Communities

There are many barriers that Black, Indigenous and other people face when it comes to accessing nature spaces. Major barriers include physical distance, financial costs and barriers related to normalizing “whiteness” in environmental culture.

The Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society (CPAWS), in Alberta, launched the bioDIVERSITY project this summer to help reduce barriers faced by racialized communities and immigrant groups. The CPAWS team is passionate about social justice, and movements like Black Lives Matter were a factor in making bioDIVERSITY happen. The project is unique to the CPAWS Southern Alberta chapter – and in the region.

Jaclyn Angotti, co-lead of the project, says CPAWS wanted to introduce programs that would be more inclusive for all Albertans who want to engage in conservation, environmental education and outdoor recreation.

Angotti, education director at CPAWS, says that she wants everyone to have the same enjoyment and safety in nature that she’s privileged to have. Photo courtesy of Angotti.

“We recognize that there are many voices and faces that are traditionally excluded from these spaces. And so, the point of the project is to really break down barriers, and invite folks into the [eco-justice] conversations.”

Hira Shah, also co-lead of the project, says that the people who interact with CPAWS are usually a very white audience, and it can be harder for racialized people to interact with CPAWS programs, but the organization is working to change that.

Some of the activities include Indigenous-led nature walks, with Indigenous speakers and elders to present the walks. Shah says that people were very interested in learning about Indigenous perspectives on nature and what they can do to support Indigenous communities.

“Being a person of colour, I know that, as I’m looking for activities here, around Calgary, it does make me feel a bit more welcome by seeing diverse faces in nature,” Shah says.

In the summer and fall, CPAWS held Indigenous-led nature walks in Calgary and Lethbridge to help encourage more people to interact with nature - BioDIVERSITY
In the summer and fall, CPAWS held Indigenous-led nature walks in Calgary and Lethbridge to help encourage more people to interact with nature. Photo by Adam Solway.

CPAWS also runs education programs and summer camps, during which youth learn about eco-justice and green spaces. Soon, the organization will start the Changemakers project, which encourages people to take eco-actions, such as helping in a community garden and buying an environmentally friendly car.

“We really want to make sure that all of these actions are seen as equally important, and as equally contributing to our natural environment as well,” Shaw says.

Shah, CPAWS communications manager, wants to encourage more people to engage in nature activities and conservation in Southern Alberta. Photo courtesy of Shah.

CPAWS is focused on tackling the history of racism in Canada. Through the bioDIVERSITY project, Angotti says that they want to help shift perspectives in Alberta and across Canada about what is environmentalism and who is an environmentalist.

“We’re trying to look at how we [as a country] have been wrong in the past,” she says.

Connecting with nature is the driving force for people to be inspired to take environmental action. Shah adds that we won’t be able to reach any of our conservation goals on a municipal, provincial or federal level if racialized communities aren’t involved.

“It’s not possible without having everyone on board,” she says. “The goals that we’re aiming for, the steps that we’re trying to achieve, all of these things require full community level participation.”

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Work to Grow: A Vision to Reduce and Repurpose Waste in Newfoundland

About 400,000 tonnes of food waste is thrown out every year in Newfoundland and Labrador, and 3F Waste Recovery, a startup of 11 people in St. Anthony, Newfoundland, wants to decrease that number. The three F’s in the company’s name stand for farm, fish and forestry — the main areas in which they’re trying to reduce waste.

Jonathan Yick is a natural product bioengineer with 3F, working there through Nature Canada’s Work to Grow program. He’s involved in multiple projects that try to reduce waste from the environment – such as dealing with cod by-products and repurposing farm waste.

As part of his job, Yick participates in the research and development stage of products at the company. Photos courtesy of Yick.

“I find, especially in Newfoundland, that waste reduction is an issue. Our recycling program, our environmental programs aren’t that great,” Yick said. “Given the way the world is going, we need to start reducing waste now, or else we might not have a world to live in.”

Yick helps with anything related to research and development, such as determining equipment needs, setting up job sites, and other engineering-related tasks.

When it comes to waste that industries produce, Yick gave the example of cod fish. When it’s filleted, only 40 percent of the fish is used. The remaining 60 percent is dumped back into the ocean or sent to a landfill.

Discarded fish waste recovered to be turned into usable product
Some of the fish that 3F recovered to turn into usable products. Without recovery efforts, much of this would have ended up as waste in the ocean or in landfill. Photo courtesy of Yick.

“We’re trying to make it so that the by-products, or what you would consider waste, is actually going to be more valuable than the fish fillets,” he said. “By doing that, it will create an incentive for people to develop less waste or find a new use for it.”

As part of the company’s Zero Waste Farms project, the hope is to divert more than 200 metric tons of Newfoundland farm waste.

Zero Waste Farms repurposes farm by-products into usable materials like soap.
Part of the Zero Waste Farms initiative includes repurposing farm by-products into usable materials like soap. Photo courtesy of Yick.

Dedicated to working in zero waste

Yick said that he always considered a career in the biomedical or environmental field, even though that’s uncommon for his degree.

“Going through mechanical engineering, I always knew that I wanted to steer away from oil and gas, which is one of the main fields for a mechanical engineer, mainly because I didn’t want to contribute to that kind of industry,” he explained.

“When I was told about 3F Waste Recovery, I thought this would be an excellent opportunity. While it doesn’t pay as well as an oil and gas company, I feel like I’m doing something substantial and something meaningful. That’s the main thing.”

Although the Work to Grow position is temporary, he’ll have the opportunity to continue his work with the company afterwards.

“We’re such a small company, so we rely heavily on funding sources, such as Work to Grow,” he said. “It’s pretty amazing to have those opportunities. Otherwise. I don’t think I would have been taken on in the first place.”

Yick hopes that the job will inspire others as well.

“I do believe that our initiatives to approach zero waste will make a huge difference, at least to Newfoundland, and hopefully to the rest of Atlantic Canada. Maybe it can be a model that can be approached by the rest of Canada and even the world.”

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New Report Urges Transformative Change to Halt and Reverse Biodiversity Loss by 2030

Countries around the globe need to do more to stop the destruction of ecosystems and rescue the planet from human-caused mass extinction. That’s the core message of a major new report written by over 50 researchers from 23 countries.

The report assesses the science underpinning the draft Post-2020 Global Biodiversity Framework, the basis for a new 10-year plan to stem biodiversity loss that will be the focus of discussions at this year’s COP15 Biodiversity Summit in Kunming, China.

The new report concludes that global commitments to protect 30% of land and ocean by 2030 are essential, but insufficient on their own, to address the multiple threats driving species extinction, including pollution, climate change, overharvesting and invasive species.

Aerial panoramic view of Pattullo Bridge and Skytrain Bridge over the Fraser River in British Columbia, Canada. The Fraser River estuary is a migratory super highway, home to over 100 species at risk of extinction.

To address these threats, the authors call for a transformative change in how humanity uses the planet’s resources.

While action at the international level is critical, the authors are clear that many of the day-to-day decisions that affect biodiversity occur at the national level.

Canada can play a critical role in turning the tide on species loss as the home to biodiverse and carbon-rich oceans, forests, wetlands, and grasslands.

We are already providing leadership by investing in the most significant expansion of protected areas on land and ocean in Canadian history and by committing to make Indigenous-led conservation central to this strategy. 

But as the report notes, protecting habitat is not enough to address biodiversity loss. We need comprehensive action to halt and reverse the free fall of species across the country. 

The challenge is that our current biodiversity laws and policies are ineffective and badly out of date. Canada’s Biodiversity Strategy dates from 1995 and remains largely unimplemented. We have fallen short of achieving most of the Biodiversity Goals and Targets set by the federal government in 2015. Biodiversity data and inventories are fragmented, and biodiversity knowledge is not well-integrated or readily accessible to Canadians. 

And much of our data and accounting for nature is just wrong. For example, the government continues to undervalue the climate and ecological importance of ecosystems like primary forests while turning a blind eye to the impacts of industrial logging. 

A clear cut block with a tree stump in the foreground.

In its 2021 election platform, the Liberal Party promised to halt and reverse nature loss by 2030, and after forming government, it mandated its Ministers to deliver on this goal. 

We’ll need a national action plan to make this happen with strong Indigenous engagement and rigorous monitoring and accountability.

From the scientists mobilized by the recent UN report to Indigenous leadership across the country and an impressive array of conservation experts across sectors–Canada has the know-how to take this commitment seriously.  

By advancing a domestic action plan to halt and reverse nature loss by 2030, Canada strengthens its position to play a leadership role at COP15. All while helping achieve a 10-year global biodiversity framework to address the threat of mass extinction and putting the world on the path to support the full recovery of nature. 

Future generations and our fellow species deserve no less.

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